THE GLADIATOR

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  The biggest enemy the Watchtower Corporation faces now is "The Truth"

  by Finkelstein in

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  2. beliefs

  thats my opinion because the wts really has been preaching false information now for so long about the end times and armageddon soon.. also the doctrine that jesus chirt has taken a position over his earthly and heavenly kingdom in 1914 .... etc.

  its been a winfall marketing scheme for such a long time, which now really doesn't have much leg to stand on.. time in conjunction with reality has made the wts's doctrines redundantly weak or useless more or less.. i'm even believing the leaders of the wts are even starting to know this for themselves.. the wts future and its main supporting pieces of literature, the watchtower and awake magazines may eventually be tossed aside.

  for some new doctrines as well newly named pieces of literature .

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  THE GLADIATOR

  The Watchtower Society is already altering to the new climate. Just two short meetings a week. No enforced hourly goal for ministry. Matters previously cast in stone are matters of conscience and this trend will continue. The magazines have been simplified and shrunk. In time they will have just one member’s only monthly magazine and leaflets for the public, they are almost there already.

  As long as members turn up occasionally and buy a monthly magazine and a few annual books, the organization will continue to do well out of its 7,000,000 members plus bible studies. The easier it get, the more likely it is that members will stay.

  This forum is a classic example of the mental gymnastic people will go through to hold onto impossible faith positions. Jehovah's Witnesses are well practiced at adjusting and compromising in order to cling to what they value. Hell, if it gets any easier - I may re-join!
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  What have you learn about life?

  by jam in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  witnesses, we were arrogant in regards to knowing all.

  the answers to life mysteries.. i have learn to listen.

  i have learn to think before i. speak and not put my foot into my mouth.. it,s a humbling experience.

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  THE GLADIATOR

  Real ale must be served at the right temperature. Not warm, yet not chilled.

  The staff at my local pub are expert at looking after their ales.

  It is to me a church and as close to heaven as I'll ever be.
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  How Did You Become An Atheist?

  by NewChapter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  since there seem to be a number of threads in this spirit, i'd like to ask how others became atheists.

  for myself, i learned some things that made me understand the bible wasn't true.

  i looked deeper, and it became even more unlikely.

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  THE GLADIATOR

  Thanks talesin. Didn't want you to be a thread-killer on my account.
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  What have you learn about life?

  by jam in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  witnesses, we were arrogant in regards to knowing all.

  the answers to life mysteries.. i have learn to listen.

  i have learn to think before i. speak and not put my foot into my mouth.. it,s a humbling experience.

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  THE GLADIATOR

  It is foolish to keep doing the same thing and expecting a different result.
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  do you own a 4wd vehicle?

  by Glander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if so, and it's the type that requires you to switch to 4wd, how often do you use that capability?

  i know more than a few people with 4wd capability but never use it.

  a couple of these folks don't even know what it's for.

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  THE GLADIATOR

  No - in the UK we have roads to drive on.
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  How Did You Become An Atheist?

  by NewChapter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  since there seem to be a number of threads in this spirit, i'd like to ask how others became atheists.

  for myself, i learned some things that made me understand the bible wasn't true.

  i looked deeper, and it became even more unlikely.

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  THE GLADIATOR

  It has been said before, but being automatically labelled an atheist for a lack of belief in a god seems absurd. If people positively believe in Christ, they are Christians; but to not believe in one of the many gods on offer through various church leaders, is a not a position, it is a negative. We can’t all wear a label for everything we do not believe in. I don’t believe in Satan either, but that does not make me an Asatanist.

  I live my life and interact with other humans, enjoy the experience of living on the most beautiful planet known to humans. Short as life is, it is awesome to be a part of this evolving planet. I am perhaps, happy to be called a humanist because that infers a positive position towards my own kind.

  We should be labelled for what we do believe in and what actions we take. Perhaps I am prepared to accept being labelled a humanist but I know nothing about gods, goddesses, demons or devils and don’t wish to wear a badge that indicates I am against things that do not exist. I have not taken a stand against gods; I simply view the concept as the stuff of fairy tales.

  If you have read this far, thank you for letting me share. Now I can enjoy my godless weekend, exploring the pleasures of the flesh.
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  How Did You Become An Atheist?

  by NewChapter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  since there seem to be a number of threads in this spirit, i'd like to ask how others became atheists.

  for myself, i learned some things that made me understand the bible wasn't true.

  i looked deeper, and it became even more unlikely.

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  THE GLADIATOR

  Considering the damage that religious faith has caused humans throughout history, ‘mind-rot’ seems an inadequately mild term.
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  How Did You Become An Atheist?

  by NewChapter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  since there seem to be a number of threads in this spirit, i'd like to ask how others became atheists.

  for myself, i learned some things that made me understand the bible wasn't true.

  i looked deeper, and it became even more unlikely.

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  THE GLADIATOR

  I enjoyed the youtube clip posted by botchtowersociety.

  Also the comments by thinking_1 Both on page 2.

  Also enjoyed the link posted by leavingwt and many other contributions from others.

  As for the opening question: How Did You Become An Atheist? I too prefer not to wear a label and be suddenly viewed as belonging to an organisation. I realised that God, as promoted by major religions, does not exist, 9 years before I left Jehovah's Witnesses at the age of 30.

  I examine Christianity but realized that without belief in God I would make a poor candidate. An examination of Eastern religion and philosophy was more promising. I have some respect for Zen Buddhism and Tao. In the end though, I do not see a shred of evidence that an Abrahamic God exists or any other personal God. God is AWOL. It’s the no-show factor that convinced me.
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  How do I hear/feel God?

  by doinmypart in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is a serious question.. i know people that hear/feel god (and see postings about people's experiences), but i have not experienced this.

  i have never heard anything audibly (or otherwise) nor "felt" anything inwardly.. i've prayed, read, quieted my thoughts, etc...but still nothing..

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  THE GLADIATOR

  poppers So good to see you still posting. A voice of reason and calm in stormy seas.
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  What does faith mean to you?

  by exwhyzee in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we all memorized the definition of faith... faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for...yadda yadda.. it seems like more and more as time goes by and our scientific knowledge base grows, we need less and less faith and fewer things can be attributed to god.. do you think we need faith or is faith just a word we use to feel ok about being too lazy to keep looking for the answers ?.

  what does faith mean to you now?.

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  THE GLADIATOR

  cofty " Is faith a dirty word ?"

  Tarnished and misunderstood perhaps, but faith has enabled humankind to reach for the stars.

  Scientifically speaking and in an, as yet, inconclusive spiritual way.